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cont. from previous post….
about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group.
When will they unlawfully take our children.
Maybe if you home school, your muslim, your christian or you believe in freedom as did the founding fathers of this country.
In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didnt speak up because I wasnt a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didnt speak up because I wasnt a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didnt speak up because I wasnt a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.”
(1976 version) Pastor Martin Niemöller (18921984)
I think letting them go back was the worst decision ever. From what I have learned through my research. If they have had exposure to the outside world, they may have extra requirements once they get back in because they can be seen as being defiled by the outsiders, even if they just stepped outside the compound. They have less freedom going back than they did before and may have experienced more mental and physical abuse by others once coming back.
Yes, He loves even the immoral. But as a Father He loves most those who love Him most.
Christ’s blood does not cover the sins you will commit tomorrow. That is what repentance is all about.
Kafka Crow it is hard to believe how uptight you are these people were opposed in a military fashion thankfully the courts of Texas ruled that Texas had overstep their powers in removing over 400 children.
I do not believe in most religions most all have some form of brain washing just as most nations do that does not give any state the right to take innocent children from innocent parents and put hem into a proven failed foster care system.
redivivusrisen- I dont know where you take your figures from.Out of your sleeve? However,I hope that the police is interested in all the cases of abuse. There (FLDS)they have found a ‘hotbed’ and thank God that they do not shun their responsabilities. Hope that the group will learn this lesson. It IS OF GREAT concern what these People are doing.
All that has happened here would not have happened if this group would not be extremer as extreme and young kids are either groomed for early sex or dumped by the side of the road. Their good childhood, and I think they are wellgroomed and carfully raised, stps pronto when their bodies change. So give me non of these tears women- you are guilty of not protecting your childrens interests. Even polygamy is illegal and you can trick the law there, but your group has gone too far.
And I am more than grateful that I was born into a family of the FLDS church. HOW GRATEFUL!!! You poor people who do not know virtue when you see it. Who cannot understand because you yourselves are so immoral, it is pitiful.
I agree it must be a nightmare for CPS to sort out. Of course as usual the govt didn’t handle the situation as well as it could… But unfortunately there’s no easy way to undo a mess like this. To all the people claiming it is a freedom issue - very few teenage girls who aren’t brainwashed “freely” choose to marry older polygamists.
you’r a moron.and i’m being nice to call you one!first of all i don’t belong to any religius group but to see so many stupid comments by brainwashed people like you it makes me puke!your NAZI GOVERNMENT FUCKED YOU UP IN TO BELIEVING ALL THE CRAP YOU SEE ON TV. HO!HO!ONE THING I CAN TELL FOR SURE YOU GOT SHIT FOR BRAINS.FACT; PEOPLE CIVIL LIEBERTIES AND RIGHTS ARE BEING TAKEN AWAY IN THE NAZI USA..DO YOUR HOME WORK AND THEN POST A COMMENT.99 % OF KID’S ARE ABUSED BY NON RELIGIOS PEOPLE.
The fact that this large scale brainwashing is taking place is horrible. I feel so lucky i was not born into one of these families, these children are not ‘free’ they do not ‘choose’ this life, they clearly do not know of the outside world and their other options. This really disgusts me, I feel terrible for these people. The ‘real’ world is so much fun! Life is too short!
I understand the severity of the case, but loading up hundreds of people on buses, taking them away from their homes, and tearing apart kids from their parents was a little overkill. It really could have been handled more carefully.
Okay… First Amd DOESN’T protect weird-ass neo BRANCH-DAVIDIANS!! These kids and women were manipulated, coerced, forced, and psychologically SHAPED to be what their masters–And I use that term purposfully–wanted them to be. THeir environment was controlled. They were kept in FEAR of the outside world. I don’t think the founding fathers had THAT in mind. Jonestown, Waco… how many more does it take?
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:15 am
cont. from previous post….
about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group.
When will they unlawfully take our children.
Maybe if you home school, your muslim, your christian or you believe in freedom as did the founding fathers of this country.
September 24th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didnt speak up because I wasnt a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didnt speak up because I wasnt a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didnt speak up because I wasnt a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.”
(1976 version) Pastor Martin Niemöller (18921984)
September 24th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
i thought the same and anyway all small children cry quite alot, he could be crying because of anything even something so simple x
September 28th, 2008 at 12:51 am
I think letting them go back was the worst decision ever. From what I have learned through my research. If they have had exposure to the outside world, they may have extra requirements once they get back in because they can be seen as being defiled by the outsiders, even if they just stepped outside the compound. They have less freedom going back than they did before and may have experienced more mental and physical abuse by others once coming back.
September 30th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
I have a blog, google flds view
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 am
Yes, He loves even the immoral. But as a Father He loves most those who love Him most.
Christ’s blood does not cover the sins you will commit tomorrow. That is what repentance is all about.
October 4th, 2008 at 5:04 am
jonestown all over again…
October 5th, 2008 at 7:35 am
hilmalen just curious why did you leave the fdls church
October 5th, 2008 at 8:02 am
just curious… why did you leave the flds church
October 6th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Kafka Crow it is hard to believe how uptight you are these people were opposed in a military fashion thankfully the courts of Texas ruled that Texas had overstep their powers in removing over 400 children.
I do not believe in most religions most all have some form of brain washing just as most nations do that does not give any state the right to take innocent children from innocent parents and put hem into a proven failed foster care system.
October 7th, 2008 at 10:01 am
“Freedom”? What, freedom to brainwash and fuck little kids? Religion is child abuse. These fuckers need to be opposed in a militant fashion.
October 8th, 2008 at 9:52 am
redivivusrisen- I dont know where you take your figures from.Out of your sleeve? However,I hope that the police is interested in all the cases of abuse. There (FLDS)they have found a ‘hotbed’ and thank God that they do not shun their responsabilities. Hope that the group will learn this lesson. It IS OF GREAT concern what these People are doing.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
You also call us heathens. We are revolted by those practises that have come to light, so what does that make you??
October 9th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
All that has happened here would not have happened if this group would not be extremer as extreme and young kids are either groomed for early sex or dumped by the side of the road. Their good childhood, and I think they are wellgroomed and carfully raised, stps pronto when their bodies change. So give me non of these tears women- you are guilty of not protecting your childrens interests. Even polygamy is illegal and you can trick the law there, but your group has gone too far.
October 9th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
It’s truly unfortunate you are so xenophobic.
God’s love is unconditional - for all living beings.
October 10th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
And I am more than grateful that I was born into a family of the FLDS church. HOW GRATEFUL!!! You poor people who do not know virtue when you see it. Who cannot understand because you yourselves are so immoral, it is pitiful.
October 14th, 2008 at 7:46 am
I agree it must be a nightmare for CPS to sort out. Of course as usual the govt didn’t handle the situation as well as it could… But unfortunately there’s no easy way to undo a mess like this. To all the people claiming it is a freedom issue - very few teenage girls who aren’t brainwashed “freely” choose to marry older polygamists.
October 15th, 2008 at 7:46 am
you’r a moron.and i’m being nice to call you one!first of all i don’t belong to any religius group but to see so many stupid comments by brainwashed people like you it makes me puke!your NAZI GOVERNMENT FUCKED YOU UP IN TO BELIEVING ALL THE CRAP YOU SEE ON TV. HO!HO!ONE THING I CAN TELL FOR SURE YOU GOT SHIT FOR BRAINS.FACT; PEOPLE CIVIL LIEBERTIES AND RIGHTS ARE BEING TAKEN AWAY IN THE NAZI USA..DO YOUR HOME WORK AND THEN POST A COMMENT.99 % OF KID’S ARE ABUSED BY NON RELIGIOS PEOPLE.
October 16th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Why the hell is the media sympathizing with these pedophiles? They broke the law in practicing polygamy and pedophilia, they deserved to get punished.
October 19th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
The Amish don’t bang litttle girls, I mean c’mon! The leaders are old sex-addicts who have multiple wives, to make multiple kids.
The sons get to carry on in their fathers’ “grand legacies” as pedophiles, and the daughters become nothing more that degraded concubines.
The fact that they’re are people like this abusing freedom of religion is dispicable.
The fact that there are people who defend their “beliefs” is confusing and infuriating.
October 23rd, 2008 at 7:58 am
When will these people be granted the freedom that we all have.
Do we go after the Amish next because of wht they believe
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:29 pm
The fact that this large scale brainwashing is taking place is horrible. I feel so lucky i was not born into one of these families, these children are not ‘free’ they do not ‘choose’ this life, they clearly do not know of the outside world and their other options. This really disgusts me, I feel terrible for these people. The ‘real’ world is so much fun! Life is too short!
October 25th, 2008 at 3:20 am
I understand the severity of the case, but loading up hundreds of people on buses, taking them away from their homes, and tearing apart kids from their parents was a little overkill. It really could have been handled more carefully.
October 25th, 2008 at 6:00 am
Hells yes it does!
October 25th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Okay… First Amd DOESN’T protect weird-ass neo BRANCH-DAVIDIANS!! These kids and women were manipulated, coerced, forced, and psychologically SHAPED to be what their masters–And I use that term purposfully–wanted them to be. THeir environment was controlled. They were kept in FEAR of the outside world. I don’t think the founding fathers had THAT in mind. Jonestown, Waco… how many more does it take?